Walk Before You Run
I peruse the Craigslist freelance postings on occasion and an ad for an editor caught my eye. At first, it sounded sincere and professional. Here was someone looking for an experienced editor to help him polish his writing.
But then I read the blurb and realized at once that this was a newbie. All the telltale signs were there. The characters were cliche, the premise was recycled, and the stakes were vague and decorated with equally nebulous adjectives.
I commend this author for wanting to get an honest appraisal, but it troubled me that he felt ready for an editor so early in the game. Judging from his blurb, he needed critique partners, not an editor.
Part of me wanted to write him and suggest he find a critique group first. But I was afraid he'd probably snarl at my insolence. Authors are inherently very protective of their work.
It's the same with cover artists, editors, and even agents. All of us have to start somewhere, but it shouldn't necessarily be front and center until we're ready for our closeups. There's no dishonor for starting at the bottom.
I don't blame the author of the Craigslist ad. I'm sure all of us have been in that position where we thought we were ready, only to find out later we weren't. It's just that in this day and age, it's hard for me to believe there are still people who don't take advantage of the many writing communities, classes, and agent blogs out there. You can't help but trip over all the resources available.
Much as I grouse about the internet, it's provided a wealth of education and experience, free for the searching.
Do you still run into people who seem clueless about this industry or do you think this was an isolated incident?
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Is traditional publishing in the middle of another firestorm? It started with a cached post about an author at Harper Collins who disclosed the pitiful amount she earned. (Cached because she had to take it down from her blog within hours.)
The Passive Voice linked to it--but the kicker was when the CEO of Kensington, Steve Zacharius commented on the post, repeatedly trying to make his case.
It was then another author posted about his experience about the poor business practices applied by Kensington.
JA Konrath entered into the fray the other day when he answered some of the questions Kensington's CEO posed during his comment stream to indie authors.
It's a lot of reading, but some interesting insights from everyone involved.
Addendum: Harper Collins must have some clout. The link to the cached post has been pulled as well. I had sent the link to friends privately, but now I wish I had copied the post in its entirety. It was very revealing about the state of traditional publishing and how it treats its authors.
Addendum 2: Apparently, there's more than one way to skin a cat. I noticed that Feedly never updates (or deletes) a post once it's been published the first time. So I added Wendy Higgins's blog to my blog reader and there it was. You can only see it in the archive, but it's there. I don't know if other blog readers work this way, but Feedly does.
But then I read the blurb and realized at once that this was a newbie. All the telltale signs were there. The characters were cliche, the premise was recycled, and the stakes were vague and decorated with equally nebulous adjectives.
I commend this author for wanting to get an honest appraisal, but it troubled me that he felt ready for an editor so early in the game. Judging from his blurb, he needed critique partners, not an editor.
Part of me wanted to write him and suggest he find a critique group first. But I was afraid he'd probably snarl at my insolence. Authors are inherently very protective of their work.
It's the same with cover artists, editors, and even agents. All of us have to start somewhere, but it shouldn't necessarily be front and center until we're ready for our closeups. There's no dishonor for starting at the bottom.
I don't blame the author of the Craigslist ad. I'm sure all of us have been in that position where we thought we were ready, only to find out later we weren't. It's just that in this day and age, it's hard for me to believe there are still people who don't take advantage of the many writing communities, classes, and agent blogs out there. You can't help but trip over all the resources available.
Much as I grouse about the internet, it's provided a wealth of education and experience, free for the searching.
Do you still run into people who seem clueless about this industry or do you think this was an isolated incident?
***
Is traditional publishing in the middle of another firestorm? It started with a cached post about an author at Harper Collins who disclosed the pitiful amount she earned. (Cached because she had to take it down from her blog within hours.)
The Passive Voice linked to it--but the kicker was when the CEO of Kensington, Steve Zacharius commented on the post, repeatedly trying to make his case.
It was then another author posted about his experience about the poor business practices applied by Kensington.
JA Konrath entered into the fray the other day when he answered some of the questions Kensington's CEO posed during his comment stream to indie authors.
It's a lot of reading, but some interesting insights from everyone involved.
Addendum: Harper Collins must have some clout. The link to the cached post has been pulled as well. I had sent the link to friends privately, but now I wish I had copied the post in its entirety. It was very revealing about the state of traditional publishing and how it treats its authors.
Addendum 2: Apparently, there's more than one way to skin a cat. I noticed that Feedly never updates (or deletes) a post once it's been published the first time. So I added Wendy Higgins's blog to my blog reader and there it was. You can only see it in the archive, but it's there. I don't know if other blog readers work this way, but Feedly does.
Comments
I'm with Karen on Joe Konrath jumping in.
But it's because he can stir the pot that he's done so well. That, and he has the credentials to back him up.
As for JA Konrath's blog, I got hooked into reading it (and the other post) all last night. Very interesting reading. And that's all I'll say about it, too! :)
As for your question about clueless people--all the time. The two areas I see them in are query letters (can't understand why they're not getting a response from agents), self-published who don't have many sales and think an agent/publisher can change that.
The latter drives me nuts, literally. I want to scream at these people every time I see their posts. It makes the rest of us look bad. I'll be the first to admit there's a butt load of crap out there in the SP world, and I thought that eventually they would realize it's hard work and go away, but it seems for every one that leaves, two more pop up.
Re: And that's all I'll say about it, too!
Understood. ;-)
It's not just us 'artsy' types.
I remember my first job out of college, having my code (I was once a programmer) reviewed by my boss, and getting tons of instruction for changes.
I was verily insulted.
I think the author was incredibly gracious and generous to her publisher, but she wasn't blind to the fact that $10k (or even 15k) over a two-year period is hardly a living wage.
The reason trad publishers don't want people knowing what they pay their authors is because it would drive a deeper wedge between authors and publishers. Ignorance is bliss (and less costly) to publishers.
I'm sure you've already seen this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Wy7gRGgeA
Still love it! One of my all time favorites.
As for the hoopla around the cached post and what Wendy Higgins shared it, well, I did read her post and it was informative. I did not, however, read the comments and I'm sure Konrath's post is also informative in his response. Pretty much it from me :-)
It's a big world with authors at every level of experience.
As far as the payment goes, I've known for years about the peanut payments from my friends who are pubbed by the big 5. I try and tell people about that too, but don't name names.
Advances have gone down substantially in recent years. A friend of mine, her first time out the gate got a 50k advance. Now first timers are lucky to see 5k.
Writers definitely don't get big advances these days, and I figure it will only get worse.
Note - I couldn't get the archive - only managed to get the start of it on Bloglovin'
Re: post
I'll email it to you. I copied it to Word so I could keep it as reference--and in case they get Feedly to remove it too.
Eventually, you have to learn what to accept and what to dismiss. Sometimes I get it wrong--but I've gotten better at picking the right horses. :)
I dunno, I was all 10K is a shit ton of money! When I first read it. I'm well aware of the fact that it's not a lot of money, though, for the work put in. And that it's a shame that most midlist authors can't make a living by writing anymore.
My dream is to maybe teach while writing.
And as for clueless people, omg ALL THE TIME. I'm a regular on the QT forums and people post all the time showing how little research they did before they started to query. We try to straighten them out, but they're just a small fraction of the overall whole
Re: clueless people
It's me then. I'm too far removed from new writers. I tend to run with a savvier group.
And now I can call on any number of people to borrow a second set of eyes.
I don't know the answer for getting non-newbie CPs. There again I was pretty lucky and had some amazing mentors.
I just hated to see him spend money when he wasn't ready. There's something to be said about a crit relationship. I learned more from them than I ever did from an editor.